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Flem · Feb 19, 2008, 04:31 PM // 16:31

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Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki

For swords I think the only bar anyone's expected to take looks like
Sever, Gash, Galrath Slash/Savage Slash, Final thrust, Flail, Rush, [defense killing utility from your second class or self heal if your monk's a retard], Res Signet...

Anything else, would be uncivilized.

THat's the problem. Your too worried about what's expected. Boring builds for boring players.

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Originally Posted by Savio

Neither a energy-based vanilla attack, a "free" attack, an unblockable attack, nor an adrenaline-draining attack are any good.

Please please please explain to me how haveing a free attack, a powerful spammable attack, or and unblockable attack are bad things??

I'm not sure how much actual playing you've done, but being blocked is the worse thing that can happen to a warrior, even more so one that uses as many adr. skills as warriors have. I love how you pretend that no one ever brings self def. skills in PvP and you expect to never be blocked.

Stormlord Alex · Feb 19, 2008, 05:07 PM // 17:07

They're bad skills because warrior bars are already packed with much stronger skills.
They're bad skills because warriors need their limited energy for better things - Shock, Bull's, Frenzy etc.

Look at the standard Shockaxe - Evis / Exe (BB) / DChop / Bull's / Shock / Frenzy / Rush / Ressig - and tell me what you'd drop for one of them trashy energy attacks. Please, I need some lulz.

Flem · Feb 19, 2008, 05:53 PM // 17:53

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

They're bad skills because warrior bars are already packed with much stronger skills.
They're bad skills because warriors need their limited energy for better things - Shock, Bull's, Frenzy etc..

Well, that's only if your running that build. This just in, there are about a million different ways to play each class.

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Look at the standard Shockaxe - Evis / Exe (BB) / DChop / Bull's / Shock / Frenzy / Rush / Ressig - and tell me what you'd drop for one of them trashy energy attacks. Please, I need some lulz.

I'd like to know what you would do against a heavy block team? Or if you get caught 1v1 with any build that denies adr./ blocks/ doesn't suck?

Stormlord Alex · Feb 19, 2008, 06:03 PM // 18:03

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Originally Posted by Flem

I'd like to know what you would do against a heavy block team?

Switch targets, force them to waste prots and skills putting blocks, then switch some more. They expend energy and cooldowns putting up them defenses, a warrior spends nothing forcing them to put them up.
Not attacking guys camping a Ward helps too. Having the mes shatter/mirror Aegis and Guardian on a spike iz gud too.

Playing well, in a team > taking shit skills

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Or if you get caught 1v1 with any build that denies adr./ blocks/ doesn't suck?

A shockaxe doesn't go 1v1. It's a team player.

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Originally Posted by Flem

Well, that's only if your running that build. This just in, there are about a million different ways to play each class.

And about 999, 980 of them ways suck and are simply worse than the norm.
Cookie cutter shockaxes and godmode DSlashers are so widely used for a reason.
They've been developed, tested, tweaked and practised over time, and have been found to be the best.

Flem · Feb 19, 2008, 06:29 PM // 18:29

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Switch targets, force them to waste prots and skills putting blocks, then switch some more. They expend energy and cooldowns putting up them defenses, a warrior spends nothing forcing them to put them up.
Not attacking guys camping a Ward helps too. Having the mes shatter/mirror Aegis and Guardian on a spike iz gud too.

Your relying to heavily on hoping that the other team has never seen your build. That's the biggest flaw of those follow the leader builds you love so much, everyone already knows what your about to try. THere is no surprise. Your easily picked off and laughed at.

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Playing well, in a team > taking shit skills.

A shockaxe doesn't go 1v1. It's a team player.

Depending on others to do your work < being prepared. Didn't boyscouts teach you anything?

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And about 999, 980 of them ways suck and are simply worse than the norm.
Cookie cutter shockaxes and godmode DSlashers are so widely used for a reason.
They've been developed, tested, tweaked and practised over time, and have been found to be the best.

LOL. Your so ignorant it hurts. If you haven't been forcefed a build, you're to blind to see anything else. In a few months you'll change you list of "the only builds that don't suck" to fit along with the new flavor of the months. You only think that each class can only run 1 or 2 builds effectively. I really don't think Guild Wars is the right game for you. You'd be better off playing WoW or FFXI Online, where each class always preforms the same tasks every time all the time. No such thing as "builds". i.e. Boring.

Diversity = Win.

Stormlord Alex · Feb 19, 2008, 06:37 PM // 18:37

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Originally Posted by Flem

Your relying to heavily on hoping that the other team has never seen your build. That's the biggest flaw of those follow the leader builds you love so much, everyone already knows what your about to try. THere is no surprise. Your easily picked off and laughed at.

Depending on others to do your work < being prepared. Didn't boyscouts teach you anything?

LOL. Your so ignorant it hurts. If you haven't been forcefed a build, you're to blind to see anything else. In a few months you'll change you list of "the only builds that don't suck" to fit along with the new flavor of the months. You only think that each class can only run 1 or 2 builds effectively. I really don't think Guild Wars is the right game for you. You'd be better off playing WoW or FFXI Online, where each class always preforms the same tasks every time all the time. No such thing as "builds". i.e. Boring.

Diversity = Win.

Irony is a beautiful thing.

Please, come back in a few months when you're no longer bad at the game, kthx.

Flem · Feb 19, 2008, 06:51 PM // 18:51

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Irony is a beautiful thing.

Please, come back in a few months when you're no longer bad at the game, kthx.

1.) I list many examples on how your acting nieve and ignorant, you post a blind statement. There's another example for ya.

2.) You have no idea how I am at the game. Although, I'd love to meet you in PvP sometime...

3.) Come back in a few years once you've hit puberty.

Stormlord Alex · Feb 19, 2008, 06:58 PM // 18:58

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Originally Posted by Flem

2.) You have no idea how I am at the game.

You're bad at it.
I've got examples for that, too.

Like these?

lolol

Flem · Feb 19, 2008, 06:59 PM // 18:59

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

You're bad at it.
I've got examples for that, too.

Like these?

lolol

What's your point? I stand behind those.

Those, however, are good threads to prove your ignorance.

Stormlord Alex · Feb 19, 2008, 07:02 PM // 19:02

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Originally Posted by Flem

What's your point? I stand behind those.

My point is those quotes show that you have little to no clue about how to play warrior effectively. Stand behind them if you must, but you're wrong. Frenzy is good, you are bad.

Flem · Feb 19, 2008, 07:10 PM // 19:10

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

My point is those quotes show that you have little to no clue about how to play warrior effectively. Stand behind them if you must, but you're wrong. Frenzy is good, you are bad.

Those are your opinions and are in no way facts. In fact, your opinions seem less valid then others, contrary to how you feel, because they aren't even yours. They're recycled.

Frenzy is ok, not as good as you pretend it is. There are builds that work well with it, but it's not the saving grace of warrior that you like to believe it is.

How about this. You bring your famed build that you stand behind so much, and lets 1v1. I'm not sure what build I will bring, I like to mix it up. It's not the build, it's the player. But you shouldn't be worred. According to you, all the skills except the ones you are going to bring, suck, so...yea. Lets do this. I'll come as any class you want (that I have- Necro, Ranger, Warrior, Monk, Derv, and I have an Ele I've almost got to 20. I'm not even experienced with it and I can take you on).

Stormlord Alex · Feb 19, 2008, 07:14 PM // 19:14

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Originally Posted by Flem

How about this. You bring your famed build that you stand behind so much, and lets 1v1. I'm not sure what build I will bring, I like to mix it up.

Wait, wait.
If I get this right... you're challenging me to a 1v1?

... do you have any idea how retarded that is?

Flem · Feb 19, 2008, 07:16 PM // 19:16

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Wait, wait.
If I get this right... you're challenging me to a 1v1?

... do you have any idea how retarded that is?

Yes. That's exactly what I am doing. I'm tired of your glory talk. I don't think you even know how to play the builds you praise. Are you scared of a little challenge?

Dr Strangelove · Feb 19, 2008, 07:18 PM // 19:18

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Originally Posted by Flem

Your relying to heavily on hoping that the other team has never seen your build. That's the biggest flaw of those follow the leader builds you love so much, everyone already knows what your about to try. THere is no surprise. Your easily picked off and laughed at.

Surprise will last only as long as the enemy monks are laughing at you. I let a primal rage wanding warrior get me down to 25% health yesterday because I was laughing so hard. Then I cast WoH once and ignored him for the rest of the match.

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Originally Posted by Flem

Depending on others to do your work < being prepared. Didn't boyscouts teach you anything?

Hi. Guild Wars is a team game. If your team's builds work together, they're more efficient. There's a reason why no one takes a team of 8 solo farming builds into PvP.

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Originally Posted by Flem

LOL. Your so ignorant it hurts. If you haven't been forcefed a build, you're to blind to see anything else. In a few months you'll change you list of "the only builds that don't suck" to fit along with the new flavor of the months. Y

Diversity = Win.

Most of the frequent posters here create their own builds. PvXwiki is that---> way.

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Originally Posted by Flem

You only think that each class can only run 1 or 2 builds effectively. I really don't think Guild Wars is the right game for you. You'd be better off playing WoW or FFXI Online, where each class always preforms the same tasks every time all the time. No such thing as "builds". i.e. Boring.

There are several different builds a warrior can play. All of them involve beating stuff into a bloody pulp. If your build cannot beat stuff into a bloody pulp, it's probably bad. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. Disregarding "cookie cutters" is ignoring the collected knowlege of thousands of players over 2 years just so you can stroke your ego.

This anti-common knowledge stuff doesn't seem to apply elsewhere. In soccer, there aren't any teams who play 11 left strikers with no other positions. It would certainly be unique and more diverse than the current system, but it would also be really, really dumb.

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Wait, wait.
If I get this right... you're challenging me to a 1v1?

... do you have any idea how retarded that is?

N/W survivor build IMO

Stormlord Alex · Feb 19, 2008, 07:18 PM // 19:18

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Originally Posted by Flem

Yes. That's exactly what I am doing. I'm tired of your glory talk. I don't think you even know how to play the builds you praise. Are you scared of a little challenge?

No, I'm actually laughing. You're wrong, you don't want to accept you're wrong, so you're gonna try to beat a team build 1v1 to save your precious ego.

Wow. That's epic.

Earth · Feb 19, 2008, 07:28 PM // 19:28

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Originally Posted by Flem

Frenzy is ok, not as good as you pretend it is. There are builds that work well with it, but it's not the saving grace of warrior that you like to believe it is.

Frenzy adds 50% damage and makes you get 50% more adrenaline? How is that not good?

Flem · Feb 19, 2008, 07:30 PM // 19:30

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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

Surprise will last only as long as the enemy monks are laughing at you. I let a primal rage wanding warrior get me down to 25% health yesterday because I was laughing so hard. Then I cast WoH once and ignored him for the rest of the match.

Hi. Guild Wars is a team game. If your team's builds work together, they're more efficient. There's a reason why no one takes a team of 8 solo farming builds into PvP.

Most of the frequent posters here create their own builds. PvXwiki is that---> way.

There are several different builds a warrior can play. All of them involve beating stuff into a bloody pulp. If your build cannot beat stuff into a bloody pulp, it's probably bad. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. Disregarding "cookie cutters" is ignoring the collected knowlege of thousands of players over 2 years just so you can stroke your ego.

This anti-common knowledge stuff doesn't seem to apply elsewhere. In soccer, there aren't any teams who play 11 left strikers with no other positions. It would certainly be unique and more diverse than the current system, but it would also be really, really dumb.

N/W survivor build IMO

So, under this logic....how are new builds ever created? Please indulge.

Also, cookie cutter builds are easiest to counter. Everyone already knows what your going to run, just like 95% of every other meat head warrior.

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

No, I'm actually laughing. You're wrong, you don't want to accept you're wrong, so you're gonna try to beat a team build 1v1 to save your precious ego.

Wow. That's epic.

How is it my ego we are talking about, again? You and your blind statements. Your the one claiming that any build you use is God's gift to GW and I'm saying that almost any build can take on any other build according to who is playing which one. The entire conversation is about how your ego is getting in the way of progression. The only thing that I have claimed here regarding me, as a player, is that I honestly think I could 1v1 you. Aside from that it's you claiming your opinions count for something and you relying on your team to do the work for you.

Flem · Feb 19, 2008, 07:34 PM // 19:34

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Originally Posted by Earth

Frenzy adds 50% damage and makes you get 50% more adrenaline? How is that not good?

I didn't say it wasn't good. My argument is and always has been, that almost all skills have their place. Frenzy works great sometimes in some builds, and horrible in others. I, personally, hate taking double dmg. It doesn't matter if I have infinite adr. if I'm dead. Now, combined with an adequate def. skill, it can be useful.

Stormlord Alex · Feb 19, 2008, 07:35 PM // 19:35

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Originally Posted by Flem

The entire conversation is about how your ego is getting in the way of progression.

The entire conversation is about Power Attack, Soldier's Strike, etc. sucking, you being wrong, and then you attacking me for being right.

And all a 1v1 would prove is that you're silly enough to actually think it means something.

Earth · Feb 19, 2008, 07:37 PM // 19:37

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Originally Posted by Flem

I didn't say it wasn't good. My argument is and always has been, that almost all skills have their place. Frenzy works great sometimes in some builds, and horrible in others. I, personally, hate taking double dmg. It doesn't matter if I have infinite adr. if I'm dead. Now, combined with an adequate def. skill, it can be useful.

Rush and Healing Signet say hello.

Or you could take Flail if we're talking about PvE.